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Excessive Downvotes

I realize there are numerous Q&A threads on the subject, but I thought I would share an email I sent to info@sololearn.com. (posted as a comment because of the 512 character restriction in questions). I'll post any reply I receive.

17th Oct 2017, 8:42 PM
David Ashton
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Add a downvote counter for every member which keeps track of the number of downvotes this member gives and is visible on the members profile 🤗 Create a toplist of members with highest downvotes numbers. This will expose them 😁
19th Oct 2017, 12:27 PM
NimWing Yuan
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[email to info@sololearn.com] I'm wondering if there is a way to determine whether excessive downvotes originate from a bot or a single account or a group of related accounts. My code https://code.sololearn.com/cFmyLBC41lAq/?ref=app has received 23 downvotes so far. While this doesn't particularly bother me and the code has received over 80 upvotes, I do know that some learners find this to be rather disheartening. In my view whatever benefits there may be of permitting unrestricted anonymous downvotes are outweighed by the detriment of the discouragement of the learners. In order of priority, I would like to see these changes in a future version of SL: 1.  No downvotes feature at all. 2.  No anonymous downvotes. 3.  Anonymous downvotes only by Level 10 and above. Thank you for your consideration. David Ashton https://www.sololearn.com/Profile/3286769/?ref=app
17th Oct 2017, 8:42 PM
David Ashton
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Glad it was resolved. those people had it coming. It's better those people without goodwill, towards others were banned. just a improvement to your level based anonymous downvotes. change it to skills based system (getting past level 10 with challenges is easy ). if you ask me there should be no anonymous down votes so users will need to think twice before down voting.
18th Oct 2017, 8:53 PM
Lord Krishna
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@ ~swim~ i know it does not tell much. i just said i like Nim's suggestion. i say they should be shown just like upvotes so we know those troll/bully who downvote without any valid reason, just for spite & so. on github there is the option to choose emoji it would be better than downvotes i say.
20th Oct 2017, 10:33 AM
Lord Krishna
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@dplusplus " Maybe we need an option that only if we report something, it gets downvoted automatically. That would fix everything. " that will partially fix things. it will be indirect downvote. people will start to spam reports at least users from the app. i like NimWing Yuan's suggestion downvotes should be shown so people become self conscious about it & anyone can spot a troll downvoter.
20th Oct 2017, 10:18 AM
Lord Krishna
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@ Lord Krishna, a little bit late, but some great answers and a great idea (the smileys or emoji)
18th Feb 2018, 5:25 AM
tooselfish
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@~swim~ # Edited # i merely said i like that suggestion not implement it. it was not serious, that user's answer, mine included. i just checked it on github all those emoji are shown in different categories with vote count like for thumbs up, down, laugh. i'm not going to show anything on your profile... votes system can be like github where upvotes & downvotes are shown differently so we know the trolls from the valid downvoters. is this clear now?
20th Oct 2017, 11:14 AM
Lord Krishna
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Sorry to hear that David.. That's some great suggestions and I hope they can really listen to you. Haters gonna hate. 😵
18th Oct 2017, 2:31 AM
Zephyr Koo
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I agree with Vengat. When you think better about it, the only justified use of downvotes would be in those cases which are also reportable (if the code is plagiarism, report for the plagiarism, if the post is spam, report for spam, if the post is insulting, report for inappropriate itc) which leaves us with downvotes actually mostly being used to (try to) bully someone or troll or be spiteful... All very nasty things if you ask me. 😋 Maybe we need an option that only if we report something, it gets downvoted automatically. That would fix everything.
20th Oct 2017, 9:06 AM
dρlυѕρlυѕ
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@David take the downvotes as upvotes. To understand why your code is haute cuisine, one needs some experience. So for beginners this code might be frustrating. Indeed the idea of granting rights depending on level seems to be the right answer. Maybe it will take some more time for 100 upvotes for your code. But dont forget, Sololearn is a game. Within this game badges and xp are important. But 20 cm beside your Monitor it is a null pointer. Anyhow it is a great game which has meaning for many of us. It is worth to defend it against those who think, being destructive will be honored with attention.
19th Oct 2017, 4:03 PM
Oma Falk
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As promised, here is SL's prompt reply: Thanks for reaching out. We have detected some intentional downvotes to your creations. The users are already blocked. We are working to improve the community voting system now. Hope this will fix the issue, meanwhile please report suspicious cases. Best, Armina SoloLearn Inc. www.sololearn.com
18th Oct 2017, 6:22 PM
David Ashton
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Thanks Oma, As I said in my email, I'm not really bothered by downvotes, but I know some people find them quite discouraging. I hope nobody quits SL because of getting downvotes.
19th Oct 2017, 7:40 PM
David Ashton
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If it's because your code is bad, it would've been acceptable, but all your codes are 👌, so this is good to report. Yeah, jsut remove the downvotes, if you don't like something just don't upvote it. Simple!
20th Oct 2017, 5:41 AM
👑 Prometheus 🇸🇬
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on the other hand... downvotes are a tool against "trolls". i usually tend to downvote qustiones like "i will be born next year...can i start coding yet now?"
20th Oct 2017, 11:42 AM
Oma Falk
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Thanks Pegasus (or is it Vengat 😉)
20th Oct 2017, 8:23 AM
David Ashton
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@oma ... ha ha😂
20th Oct 2017, 12:04 PM
Vijay
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just downvote lobby from legal rights withholders
19th Feb 2018, 5:38 AM
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer
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Hmm! This is an interesting thread and your all correct, users should not be able to downvote without leaving a comment. I understand why someone would like to be anonymous (although I disagree), they should be able to downvote and able (if the chose) to leave a comment anonymously (so there is “no” direct revenge from “me”). However everything should be a double edge sword, hence we should be able to downvote any related downvote comments which are linked to actual users, whether or not if they are anonymous.
24th Dec 2017, 2:00 AM
H Chiang
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Losing an amount of xp per downvote should suffice to discourage trolls, even if only 1, 2 or 5xp. Also show up and downvotes separately, because and answer with 50 upvotes and 50 downvotes is not the same as an answer with 0 votes.
19th Feb 2018, 1:10 PM
John Waters
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why not having the two of them together upvotes and downvotes, and if someone down votes you, it's not necessarily because your code is bad, there is other parameters into account, and without down votes sololearn will look like Facebook and full of hypocrisy
23rd Oct 2017, 2:07 AM
Abdelhadi Semlali
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