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WHY? 4%10=4 -4%10=6

17th Oct 2016, 11:35 AM
питер огнекрылый
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Because in Python the remainder must be less than the divisor AND positive (Java and javascript choose the sign of the numerator instead). In Python, taking the modulo formula as: x=qc + r (total = q*divisor + remainder) Rewritten as: x - qc = r (total - q*divisor = remainder) You know 'x' and 'c', you're trying to find 'r', so all you can change is 'q'. For your examples: 1) 4%10=4 4 - 0(10) = 4 (q=0) 2) -4%10=6 -4 - (-1*10) = 6 (q=-1) Reference, with additional negative examples: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/519845/modulo-of-a-negative-number edit: adding 2 codes due to another question... https://code.sololearn.com/c7o8hur596jS/?ref=app https://code.sololearn.com/c0VcyWYMEfed/?ref=app
17th Oct 2016, 3:46 PM
Kirk Schafer
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Good to know. In C++ and Javascript, negative numbers modulo m produce a number between -(m-1) and 0 instead of doing a true modulo. And I dislike it, I have to do (n%m + m)%m as a workaround.
17th Oct 2016, 1:22 PM
Zen
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It's just the matter of mathematics. a % d = r ,means: a = (k * d) + r ,that k is an integer and r is a positive integer so we have: -4 = (k * 10) + r now if we consider k = -1, -4 = -10 + r ==> r = 6
1st Dec 2016, 1:18 PM
Farhad Sotothe
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still don't understand. how do I solve this 7%(5//2)
25th Dec 2016, 8:35 PM
Sidi Victor
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@Kirk Schafer. Thank you. Excellent answer! I understand. But unfortunately, I believe this is a BUG in Python, because I lost time! In C++, Java (and other) remainder of division is correct. In Python, uses the formula " x=qc + r (total = q*divisor + remainder)" without knowing it, the code causes the program error. My son was not able to solve this simple school problem (find the maximum negative number and not finishing 4. http://www.sololearn.com/app/python/playground/cS6vzGj2g6mf/ ). My solution to this problem be SURE to use abs: abs (x)%y It would be nice if it took into account in this lesson and drew the attention of the students. P.S. Sorry for my English .
18th Oct 2016, 1:34 AM
питер огнекрылый
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da jopa eto, zabey
18th Dec 2016, 4:08 PM
Kokoshka
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because 4 can not divided completely, so in 0 times division it will give 4 as a remainder. -4%10=6 -4+10=6
1st Dec 2016, 3:05 PM
Rahul Maithani
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but shouldn't 4/10 be producing a decimal quotent n a reminder of zero?
18th Mar 2018, 1:02 PM
TEJAS HARITSA V K
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@Sidi Victor to get the answer type in : print(7%(5///2)). Enter that without codes for solving it. They have left out the part about print command that must be placed before anything that is to be displayed.
18th Mar 2018, 1:23 PM
TEJAS HARITSA V K
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Why does Python assume that q=-1? Is it to make the remainder positive AND less than the divisor? If that's so, then does that mean that Python looks for the closest number to the quotient that will give a remainder that is positive AND less than the divisor? Because -4/10 has a quotient of 0. So that means if Python finds it to be -1, it looks for the closest number to 0 to create a remainder that satisfies the rules...?
25th Mar 2018, 5:02 PM
Wilson