Discussion on downvote 👎.Just wanted to talk. Important!
What's going on Sololearn, I am continuously noticing that the questions asked by Sololearners are getting dislike by us. Why Maybe you also noticed that. If we cannot upvote the question then we should not dislike it. Is the Question is wrong or the question is causing any bad effect,i didn't think. Then why it is going on. It discourages the most of new learners and the person who asks the question. Does language of the question decide the value or importance or suitability of questions. ℹ️𝙋𝙡𝙚𝙖𝙨𝙚 𝙙𝙤 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙛𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩. 𝘼𝙣𝙙 𝙙𝙤 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙪𝙨𝙚 𝙤𝙛𝙛𝙚𝙣𝙨𝙞𝙫𝙚 𝙬𝙤𝙧𝙙𝙨. 𝙄𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙛𝙤𝙧 𝙛𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙜,𝙞𝙩 𝙞𝙨 𝙣𝙤𝙩 𝙖 𝙛𝙞𝙜𝙝𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙖𝙧𝙚𝙣𝙖. ℹ️Read the discussion for information And suggest solutions to this problem. A conclusion of this problem ❓ Think about it.
10/17/2021 5:53:43 PMShiva [Less Active]
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Shiva, That's right, but I guess you haven't met or seen the many of those who are not new, had been informed, and yet again they repeat the same mistake. I've been trying my best to inform people posting unsuitables for +/- 3 years or so, so having seen more those careless people (know but don't care) and ignorant is nothing new for me. Though, it doesn't and wouldn't stop me going and trying to do what I can to make this forum *just a little bit* better with time. And I can confirm you there were some excellent contributors here who are now gone inactive, maybe got tired of trying. So I just kinda get a feeling that we should keep it in balance between keeping the door open, and at the same time, not to lose interests of the contributors. TBH Idk exactly how it should be done, but that's my take ...
ln short: bad content makes the app/forum useless. So it is the responsibility of all users to help keep the app/forum free from it. If someone gets discouraged when they're asked to adhere to the rules and to put at least minimal effort into their posts and questions they lack both the personal and intellectual maturity for coding (or in fact for all post-childcare activities).
You'll notice that except for the very worst posts (usually spam) almost all bad posts get an answer with information on what to do and what not to do on the forum. You'll also notice that the vast majority never change their posts to comply with the rules. That's not a beginner issue, that's a major character flaw. You'll also notice that many people remove their down votes once the question is suitably edited.
If you follow this forum for some time, you'll notice that the majority of questions violate one or more of the guidelines. The guidelines are there for a reason.
The single down vote on Saji's question is from me. The reason I down voted it is that it's a duplicate of Amelia's question and a question that could easily be resolved with a quick internet search (and probably with a use of the forum's search bar).
I can't say whether the downvote on Amelia's question is justified since I don't speak the language. I have the impression that some people down vote all questions that are not in English. In my opinion that is not justified, definitely not if it's one of the languages of the app (i.e. Russian and Spanish).
For Vlad's case, OP asked 2 questions which are exactly the same except one expected a for...loop, and the other a while...loop. The question was around C++ but OP doesn't follow C++ tutorial, which if he did, would've helped him big time. Amelia's question is way too old to even be discussed now (posted 3 years ago). OP wrote the question in my native language, described the task, and asked for the solution (pseudo code). OP doesn't follow any tutorial in SoloLearn, and seemed to be looking for a quick homework completion (lacks a will to try). I see Tree gets many responds, Idk why the thread gains down votes, question was comprehensible, used proper and relevant tags, I have no idea ...
I didn't even realise that the question Saji linked to is three years old. That's bordering on grave-robbing. 😂
Ipang, Simon Sauter it has -4 +2. I don't think it's duplicate or worthless to ask! https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2578325/?ref=app
Shiva, Forgive me if I misunderstood what your "conclusion" is, but it seems you are setting up your own "standard" on how contributors should handle incoming queries. I just have an idea, I would like to see you walk the talk. I challenge you to try and do all the things you suggested. I wonder if you can be all that patient, and be consistent to your ideas after a while, having actually undergone the real "world". I personally can understand how tedious it is for contributors to deal with unclear, irrelevant, or even spammy posts continuously. On the other hand, I can also understand people don't get to know "the way" until they are informed of one. But again, I also know there are these people who don't care at all. When you find one you'll understand what I mean, you can talk them into senses in any way you can think of, and you'd still find yourself be talking to yourself. In the end of the day, it is the Content Creation Guidelines that we abide, not each our own perspective and/or opinion. ~unsub
Odex If you find that to be the case you might want to delete your account and spend your time more productivity elsewhere and spare those that appreciate the platform the misfortune of reading such comments as yours: "because the community is shit and fulfilled of retards."
Thank you all for your thoughts here today. My final thought on this thread is: We may not agree with each other on all the points. But, disagreement is fine if we can do it without being disagreeable or disrespectful.
From the content creation guidelines: "Policy for Using Upvote/Downvote Option The Community chooses the best and the worst content/members using its right to upvote and downvote code samples, posts, answers, comments, etc. While an upvote reflects one’s attitude to the content, a downvote is used to keep Sololearn safe and interesting. Here are the cases when the downvote is eligible: - Posts/answers comments that can be considered as spam - Incorrect and misleading answers - Answers/comments that do not match the question - Cases of plagiarism - Other cases that contradict the guidelines"
Can you share the links to those questions that are getting injustice down votes? Talk about discouragement, did you also notice the many people abusing the forum for out of SoloLearn's purpose? like those spammers, those who post unclear questions, carelessly composed threads etc. What about those "garbage"? don't you think such things discourage the contributors?
One of the currently three down votes on Vlad's code is from me. He is asking about multiple problems, his question seems to have been cut off by the character limit. And he has given no indication that he tried to solve the problems himself. The answers he got tell him how to do better. Yet his question is unchanged and he has not provided further information.
you are smart. you are brave. Me too and I don't really care personally. But I do feel strongly it diminishs the platform and causes new user disengagement. I do have to confess that I do have fun sometimes calling out the downvoters, asking them to opine in the sun rather than downvote in the shadows. I see a good number of downvotes disappear and their poster head for the hills without a comment. 😲
Then show some examples where questions or posts were down voted despite following the content creation guidelines.
Some questions which is suitable- https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2905138/?ref=app https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2905071/?ref=app https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2905007/?ref=app https://sololearn.com/discuss/1290502/?ref=app https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2904894/?ref=app https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2905789/?ref=app https://www.sololearn.com/Discuss/2898953/?ref=app for more go to discussion section.. you will find more.....
Zalfo's post is basically "here's a program with 1500+ lines of code, explain it to me". I'd say it's obvious why that's not OK.
I have noticed this as well. It seems like there is brigading going on.